The Multiplying Church

8 05 2008

I just finished reading, “The Multiplying Church” by Bob Roberts Jr.  This was a good read.  Lots of stuff to make you think.  At the end of the book, he gives some quotes from the book and says these are the things I never want you to forget. I’d like to share some of them with you.

  • Until you can stand up in front of a group of people and say, “Imitate me”, you have no business starting or leading a church.
  • It’s not really about church planting, it’s about transformation.
  • Steal from every model, yet make sure you don’t copy any one.
  • Finish it.  Anyone can start a church; it takes much more to complete the task.  What we need more of are not more church starters but church finishers.
  • You’re not going to win the world for Christ 9:00 to 5:00, Monday through Thursday.
  • You have enough time in the day to get every single thing done that needs to be done.
  • Any vision that doesn’t require your entire life isn’t a vision; it’s just a thought.
  • If you make your family hate you for starting a church or winning the world, you did it wrong.  If they hate you, what difference does string a church make?
  • Converts may grow a church, but disciples change the world.
  • You’ve been called to the Kingdom, not called to preach.

Also, Roberts prayer at the beginning of the book rocked my world;

Father, break us of the way we have tied our egos to our ministries.  forgive us of wanting to be the superstars and the heroes.  Forgive us for engaging in turfism and allowing our individual ministries to define your kingdom.  May we see that your kingdom is beyond any one single local church, and may those of us that are pastors lead our churches in like manner.

May our focus be for the love of you.  May our mandate be to equip others to follow you.  May the fruit of our hands be seen in a viral faith that is spreading all across our land through churches that are being multiplied.

There’s more but, I’ll let you buy it and read it!





The Bivocational Pastor

8 05 2008

Again, keep in mind that I apologized on Monday for a few of my posts this week:)That being said, what I have to say about being a bivocational pastor may cause some disagreement. I might get an e-mail or two and that’s O.K. as long as it makes you think. Of course this post is directed towards fellow pastors, but hopefully if you’re not a pastor you will get an insight into my warped mind.A Bivocational pastor is one who works a separate job outside of the church, either by choice (not usually the case) or by necessity to make ends meet. I have been on both sides of the fence, being a full-time church staff member for a number of years and being currently bivocational. Here are some of my thoughts…

  • Bivocational pastoring is difficult. I think just the word bivocational scares off many “pastors”. “It seems like we don’t have enough time to do what we need to do now”, I’ve heard. “I can’t imagine being bivocational. That would be too difficult.” Difficult isn’t a bad thing. No where in the Bible does God call us to comfort (except in Him). I think that many pastors (esp. the American church) are too comfortable. Conference this week, lunch meeting today, Study for 10 hours, blog for a bit, surf the internet….you know the drill. Bivocational pastoring doesn’t allow for this ease of scheduling.
  • Bivocational pastoring is more relational. So many pastors spend so much time in the office, or studying that they don’t spend time with people. Especially lost people. Most of their people time is spent with church people. I dare say many pastors don’t have any nonchristian friends, or any meaningful friendships outside of their church or other pastors. Do we need those relationships? Yes, but it isn’t enough. Bivocational pastoring opens those doors for relationships outside of those church walls.
  • Bivocational pastoring is misunderstood. It’s almost as if those who are in “full-time” ministry look at those who are bivocational as second class ministers (just a personal observation). It’s as if they feel that you aren’t good enough at what you do to be “full-time”. It’s as if being “full-time” means you’ve arrived.
  • Bivocational pastoring is Biblical. Find in the Bible where it says to pay the church leadership at all. It’s not in there. And don’t give me the whole, “worthy of double honor” business, because that passage is dealing with respect and honor not finances. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t necessarily think that being paid by the church is wrong…I get paid, but it’s just not something that is necessarily Biblical. On a side note, I really feel that the reason that many churches struggle or aren’t seeing God work is that the ministry can be a breeding ground for lazy people looking for an easy paycheck. If this is not you, no need to be offended!

I don’t want to come across as angry that pastors get paid full-time, and some are paid very well. I just want to get at the heart of the matter. It’s all about the heart. What I am about to say is pretty bold, but I believe it and I hope that it causes you as a pastor to examine yourself (believe me I’ve examined myself).

If you aren’t willing to do what you are doing without taking a dime from the church, you aren’t called to ministry.

That’s right, I said it. If you are not willing to not only lay down your life for the sheep but your paycheck I don’t feel your vision is from God and you aren’t called to ministry. When you are called to ministry, you are miserable doing anything but, and you would do it for free in a heartbeat…no questions asked. I’ve said it on this blog before and I’ll say it again, I’d do this thing for free (and I have for many years) and if our church can’t afford to support me full-time or part-time then I would gladly forgo my salary. What about you? Are you willing to do what you do for free? Are you willing to be bivocational our are you too comfortable in the “full-time” position you are in?

O.K., I’m off my soapbox now, but I’m passionate about this and I really don’t mean to upset anyone, just to make you think.





Great Quote

8 05 2008

Tony Morgan has this quote over on his blog, so I thought I’d steal it. It’s not his anyway!

Jeff Bezos, founder and CEO of Amazon.com as quoted on BusinessWeek.com (April 17, 200 8)

I believe you have to be willing to be misunderstood if you’re going to innovate. That’s actually a serious point. If you’re going to do something that’s never been done before—which is basically what innovation is—people are going to misunderstand it just because it’s new.

My thoughts:  There are so many times I have felt and still feel misunderstood. People who don’t understand why we do things the way we do them. Just because it’s not the norm or the traditional way of doing church. I really want to be innovative in the way we reach people with the gospel. We don’t need to reach people who are already reached. We don’t need church hoppers or transfer growth. We don’t need to find ways to reach people who are being reached by other churches in our area. To quote Craig Groeschel, “To reach people nobody else is reaching, we must do things that nobody else is doing”.